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Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.04.27 04:43:00 - [1] Apparently demanding service for the money you pay is a bannable offence.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.04.28 05:25:00 - [2] Well looks like CCP ban spree has cleared up general discussion of customer complaints. Guess that is better then working on the game.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.04.29 02:59:00 - [3] Think it's time to unsubscribe Har. Seems CCP has completely given up on Eve and only see it as a cash cow full of people stupid enough to fall for their crap.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.04.29 03:33:00 - [4] Quote: òAn issue was identified that affected the re-spawning of dungeon distributions and this has now been resolved. Looks like they fixed the same plex spawning bug in Incursions.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.04.30 23:26:00 - [5] Well.... I guess FW people have given up on ever getting the 2 weeks of bug fixes that have been needed since release. CCP got any new cool trailers to play?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.01 23:48:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Manifest I've talked it over with a few people, including the event scheduler and a couple people from design. There was basically a terrible, inexcusable miscommunication where the session had loosely been decided upon beforehand as a topic, but nobody had properly affirmed their attendance on the dev side. In the madness leading up to and during Fanfest something is bound to go wrong. Regrettably, CCP's attendance at the FW session was one of the few things that did. So, I'm talking to some of the people that could possibly have been at a FW session to figure out how to make it up to the people who went to the session but found it unmanned. More on this hopefully in a couple days time at the latest. I'm also waiting to hear back from CCP Gilsev, the CCPer who did attend the session (as mentioned above), but who works on the content team and had nothing to do with FW other than having general knowledge about it. He has been at a team offsite in Iceland ever since Fanfest, so hope to hear from him tomorrow. I want to get his notes and thoughts to at least be able to pick up the conversation had there on these boards. CCP Krisnitori, one of the main organizers of Fanfest, expressed extreme regret to me and by proxy to you guys, for not properly handling this session before Fanfest. She did a fantastic job with everything else as far as I can see, but she admits a definite fail in this area. Again, sorry from CCP. We know what a blue ball it is to travel to Fanfest to speak about something you really care about in EVE and then to be hit with a brick wall. Hopefully some generative discussion was had about FW that can continue here apart from the justified indignation. More lip-service and bull** from the masters of bull**?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.03 23:39:00 - [7] Got a timemachine CCP? Wanna go back and not neglect your game?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.06 00:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia See they are coming out with this new stuff that's going to be AWESOME!!! OH MAN ARE YOU GOING TO LOVE THIS NEW STUFF... oh and also, they are going to support the new stuff. No really, it'll be rough when it comes out but they plan on making improvements and working on it all next year and the following years to make sure everything is GREAT and AWESOME just like they promised. See, they are committed to EXCELLENCE. You just don't understand what that means. Oh man wait till you see this new stuff it's going to be SO COOL and totally supported by the full dev team after release. and don't worry if the game is a little buggy they already know about that and have a patch coming out, and don't worry if people are exploiting the mechanics and pvp doesn't work because the agro system is buggy REST ASSURED THEY WILL ADDRESS THESE ISSUES!! lol funny cause it's true. So when is this catch-up roundtable CCP?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.10 01:08:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP Manifest I have not in fact forgotten about this thread So amazingly lame response man. Give it another 5 years. Don't worry the strategy of making everyone quit so they stop complaining is working out fine.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.10 01:17:00 - [10] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida The lack of iteration has allowed flawed mechanics to accumulate so it is PvP as a whole that is threatened now Truth.

Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.16 03:01:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Manifest You've been patient for this long...just a week or so longer please. So after several years of CCP intentionally neglecting FW you will be moving on this next week? We should see the bugs patched sometime within 3-5 years from now? Good to hear. Look forward to other expansions being patched sometime too.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.18 00:47:00 - [12] .......... tumble weed passes ............ Isn't there some other way other then writing code that CCP could make these complaints about broken major expansions go away?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.21 03:00:00 - [13] Don't worry CCP. HTFU or GFY.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.23 04:02:00 - [14] Stand the **** up and be heard CCP. Either you want FW dead and gone or you have resources and ideas. Do something. Either just come out and say that you want it dead or start working.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.24 00:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen Half ****ed Jack - you're simply leaving the forums, right?? Not leaving the warzone are you?? or dare I say, the game?? Say it ain't so.... The deliberate and consistent neglect of this major expansion by CCP is a perfectly good reason to stop giving them money.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.24 01:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Mutnin I'm mixed on if I'd like to see them do anything.. On one hand it would be nice to see some new things added, but the other half of me wonder if they would just turn it into some crappy PVE incursion style carebear land. This is true. The original actual game design of FW is some of the best thinking which has been coded into Eve. It just needs a few tiny bug fixes. Literially a few hours work, but then if the "new forums" are 72k hours work then... lol With CCP in their current head-space they'd likey just assign some flunky coder who's never played and has no idea of the original game design structure. Really... It's just got to the point of F U CCP
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.25 01:25:00 - [17] Isn't it obvious that they don't understand what a hole this is in their game and have no intention of fixing the few simple bugs, which have broken it since day 1, even after fixing the same broken code in Incursions. They won't respond to this thread with anything other then platitude. There will be no catch-up round-table. If there is no one will attend after losing so much faith. If any discussion ever takes place, no one will be able to explain how it works as those devs and players have all quit. Any work will be performed by "the new guy" without a real team or any real dedication of resources. The solution is for all FW players to quit so CCP can recruit a new wave of users with simpler demands. CCP is not going to fix this, they just want it to go away.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.25 01:48:00 - [18] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 25/05/2011 01:50:45 Originally by: Calathea Sata CCP doesn't really know how to design their game. They like to release placeholder crap and hope for some nice ideas coming from the angry players. And then ignore them. No no this is actually really amazing game design, it all fits really well. However there are 2-3 tiny little bugs that stop the jig-saw from fitting together. Whoever originally designed it must be very dissapointed in CCP never putting their idea and effort together correctly. No one at CCP really understands how it was put together now however. Noah is a really good game designer and could understand the mechcanic if he tried, I'm sure, but he HATES FW with a passion. edit: See.... There is a faction within CCP who believe FW = WoW PvP Arena. They never wanted it in the game but had it forced apon them as a testing ground for Dominion features (which never really happened). From this perspective they only want it to fade and die so it can be removed from the game.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.25 03:25:00 - [19] When the thread hits 50 pages 3 hours dev time will be assigned and bugs will be fixed the next day.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.26 00:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Karl Planck But you are DEAD wrong if you think there aren't a ton of those plexes to run. This is part of the problem with FW. People who play it for the few hours a night the mechanic functions see a completely different game in plexing to those who wake up after they've stopped respawning.

Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.26 02:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Yakov Pavlov Color me shocked, shocked I say! that the fanboy who admittedly blows off any criticism of FW downplays the problems with the Plexing mechanic. The mechanic works, just the code need a bug fix to make the plex respawn properly. Currently the bug causes PvP plexing only work for 3 or so hours after downtime. This being such a small issue is part of what makes it so **ing **ed that CCP can't get off their **ing ass and fix it.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.27 06:59:00 - [22] Lot of new complaints last night, back to the top.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.29 02:15:00 - [23] So when does the 18 months of no Eve dev finish?
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.31 02:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen CCP's Devs and GM's have said in interviews one of the hardest things emotionally is to put your heart and soul into making an incredible game, knowing you can't please everyone, and than have the player base just rip you up and down for every mistake. Problem is we believe in the feature, believe it is awesome. CCP believe they hate it and factions within wish it had never been released. CCP have no confidence in FW. Players have much confidence in FW. The issue isn't that we're telling them it's "**". We're telling them it's awesome and just needs TINY** bug fixes. Their response is to ignore any FW issue. Since 2008.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:26:00 - [25] For years I've watched friends have to quit this game. Calling CCP a scam and pointing out that they specialise in Crowd Control. I never really believed it, saw enough movement and enough good stuff from CCP that I believed they actually enjoyed making their game. I was just wrong and telling myself garbage to justify buying into this hoax. This thread has become a good example of exactly how CCP do business. Generally bull**** is the primary tool in their arsenel. This issue has experienced the usual progression of how they kill an issue, simply keep promising things to keep them subscribed as long as possible. Sooner or later they'll quit and the issue will go away, but not before a profit has been made from the disatisfied customer.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.08 04:28:00 - [26] Seeing the plex spawning issue was fixed within a few weeks of Incursions release..... Couldn't someone just copy over the fixed code back to FactionWar from Incursions. They are the same thing after all.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.14 02:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 14/06/2011 03:04:50 I have an email basically telling me it's the first they've heard of plex spawning bug (just lol) and they'll look into it after AT. I don't really believe it but meh, took mention of Ombudsman to get past the first 20 emails.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.18 04:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen Originally by: mkint If you play EVE for FW, you probably shouldn't be. If you play EVE "for what it may someday be" you definitely shouldn't be. Excuse me? And just who are you to determine what fun means to me? Missed his point. Not telling you how to play. Telling you waiting for CCP to feed you more bull**** is not productive.

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